Showing posts with label illegal warfare. Show all posts
Showing posts with label illegal warfare. Show all posts

Friday, January 30, 2009

Turkish Prime Minister against Peres-Full Debate( English and Turkish )



Full english translation of his talk.........

Turkey's prime minister stalked off the stage at the World Economic Forum red-faced Thursday after reproaching Israel's president over the Gaza offensive by saying "You kill people."

The packed audience, as Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Israeli President Shimon Peres raised their voices and traded accusations.

Peres was passionate in his defense of Israel's 23-day offensive against Hamas militants, launched in reaction to eight years of rocket fire aimed at Israeli territory. As he spoke, Peres often turned toward Erdogan, who in his remarks had criticized the Israeli blockade of Gaza, saying it was an "open air prison, isolated from the rest of the world" and referred to the Palestinian death toll of about 1,300, more than half of those civilians. Thirteen Israelis also died.

The heated debate with Israel(Occupier of Palestine) and Turkey at the center was significant because of the key role Turkey has played as a moderator between Israel(Occupier of Palestine) and Syria. Erdogan appeared to express a sense of disappointment when he recounted how he had met with the Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert just days before the offensive, and believed they were close to reaching terms for a face-to-face meeting with Syrian leaders.

Erdogan was angry when a panel moderator cut off his remarks in response to an impassioned monologue by Peres defending Israel's offensive against the Hamas rulers of Gaza.

"I find it very sad that people applaud what you said," Erdogan said. "You killed people. And I think that it is very wrong."

The angry exchange followed an hour-long debate at the forum attended by world leaders in Davos. Erdogan tried to rebut Peres as the discussion was ending, asking the moderator, Washington Post columnist David Ignatius, to let him speak once more."Only a minute," Ignatius replied.

Mr. Peres, you are older than me. Your voice is too loud," Erdogan told Peres, saying his emotion belied a guilty conscious(sp).

"You kill people," Erdogan told the 85-year-old Israeli leader. "I remember the children who died on beaches. I remember two former prime ministers who said they felt very happy when they were able to enter Palestine on tanks."

When Erdogan was asked to stop, he angrily stalked off, leaving fellow panelists U.N. Secretary-General Ban-Ki Moon and Arab League Secretary Amr Moussa.

"When it comes to killing, you know it too well," the Turkish leader said. "I remember two former prime ministers in your country who said they felt very happy when they were able to enter Palestine on tanks," Erdogan added.

When the moderator tried to cut short Erdogan's remarks, saying it was past time to adjourn for dinner, he answered in frustration, "Don't interrupt me. You are not allowing me to speak."

He then said: "I will not come to Davos again."

Ultimately, Erdogan stressed he left not because of a dispute with Peres but because he was not given time to respond to the Israeli leader's remarks. Erdogan also complained that Peres had 25 minutes while he was only given 12 minutes.
"I did not target at all in any way the Israeli people, President Peres, or the Jewish people," Erdogan told a news conference afterward.

"I am a prime minister, a leader who has specifically expressly stated that anti-Semitism is a crime against humanity," he said.

Peres and Erdogan raised their voices. "Mr. Ergodan said what he wanted to say and then he left. That's all. He was right." Of Israel, he said, "They don't listen."
Ergodan brushed past reporters outside the hall. His wife appeared upset. "All Peres said was a lie. It was unacceptable," she said, eyes glistening.


Nedd I say anything? I believe PM Erdogan has said it all.

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

Keep Your PCs Safe; We Are Witnessing A True HOLOCAUST In Action


I have, so far, managed not to contract the dreaded Conficker/Downadup infection...and I plan to keep it that way, at least in regards to my main computer. It will now become my entertainment station, and I will now utilize a backup PC as my main internet workstation.

If, by some unfortunate circumstance, you have contracted the dreaded infection, here are some removal instructions, along with a helper application (the application is zipped to prevent corruption - if you have Windows XP or VISTA, an uncompression utility is built into the OS; otherwise, try 7-Zip).

I am appalled at the level of dishonesty displayed by the government in Israel, with regard to the atrocities being visited upon the denizens of Gaza.

Let me make a clarification: I am not a sympathizer to the Palestinian cause. I have no preference to Palestinians over Israelis. I am an American born and bred...it's just that I was bred to DESPISE BRUTALITY AND INJUSTICE...and this is all that I see when I listen to a radio broadcast on 1010WINS, glance at a newspaper on the subway or peruse a "mainstream" news website.

Is it entirety possible that Israel is justified in their actions? Well, here's the thing...you can't justify pre-emptive strikes, and here's why:

You live in an apartment complex, and you and your next-door neighbor don't quite get along...is it okay to shoot him, because you think they will do so if you don't first? It is NOT. This is why I fully support the Second Amendment - one should always be able to DEFEND onself from an attacker; if you outlaw firearms, only outlaws will have firearms.


Israel LIED when it was stated that there were no civilian casualties.

Israel LIED when it was stated that HAMAS broke the cease-fire.

Israel LIED when it was stated that they were not using white phosphorous, when they WERE.

I grew up believing that to earn respect, one should give respect. Israel is demanding the respect of Palestinians, without affording the same respect to them. You cannot expect for someone to recognize your "right to exist", and then not afford them the same right. This is the reason that the "two-state" solution was not accepted.

Sweden has cancelled a Holocau$t event - they didn't feel it was "appropriate" to observe such an event with the current massacre unfolding.

I agree.

Thursday, January 22, 2009

Citizen's Briefing Book: Re-Evaluate Aid To Israel

It's too bad that I missed this when it first appeared - Citizen's Briefing Book: Re-Evaluate Aid To Israel

Oh, the rant I would've made.

Ry sent me a video...enjoy...I have updated the title to Gaza Destruction/Holocaust Rationalized By U.S. Government:

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