Showing posts with label Crisis In America. Show all posts
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Wednesday, July 9, 2008

About this BBC “hit piece” story about WTC 7… THERE IS A HUGE CONTRADICTION HERE!



The BBC does it again!

You see...here's the main problem with the mutually-exclusive excuses for going along with the "official" interpretation of events...

...IT DOESN'T WORK!

As indicated in a prior posting on PrisonPlanet, Larry "Two Sheds" Silverstein cannot have it both ways - when he uses the term "pull it", he attempts to explain that he was not using the widely-recognized controlled demolition term as it is commonly used; rather, he states that he was referring to the removal of firefighters from the Salomon Brothers Building, also known as World Trade Center Building 7.

But that turns out to be a bold-faced LIE. There were NO FIREFIGHTERS in WTC 7! There seemed to be an issue with getting proper irrigation with which to douse the relatively localized fires with WTC 7; and so, firefighters were forbidden to perform actions within the building.

The BBC hit piece that attempts to debunk the assertions that the Salomon Brothers Buiding was removed by controlled demolition engaged in some selective editing of the statement made by Larry in a 2002 documentary - the original statement is thus:



"I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it." And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

Do you see the last line of his statement? It was REMOVED in the piece. That alters the entire context of his statement, allowing the BBC hit piece to falsely assert that Larry did not refer to the collapse of WTC 7 using widely-accepted controlled demolition terminology.

Here's a great page in regards to controlled demolition as it pertains to WTC 7!


I have reprinted my posting at PrisonPlanet in regards to this latest bit of crap by the BBC - of course, it is partly in response to some stupid-ass posters:

I think that Brad is Brad Davis of the despicable smear attempt on Alex Jones - the same one he pulled on Michael Jackson.

Lokis...you were the result of someone not pulling out quite in time...I'm sure that you parents look askance at you every once in awhile...knowing that you weren't a planned birth.

Why am I so incensed? Because it's pieces of afterbirth like YOU that allow for atrocities and false-flag attacks like September 11th to occur.

You indulge in your shared delusion with your fellow 9/11 Official Staters, and implore all of us to do the same...but you seem to be missing one very important aspect of accepting that nonsense and your shared delusion - WHO BENEFITS?

According to your shared delusion, we are less than human and don't need to be afforded human rights. We can be lied to with impunity. In fact, we have NO RIGHTS that you need to observe or respect.

Do you understand why we REJECT your bullshit lies and prevarications?

I was, until yesterday, engaged in a battle with a completely morally-compromised individual - we kept going back and forth about NONSENSE...he ended up admitting thatthe attack on the U.S.S. Liberty was an attempt to hide/obscure ILLEGAL ACTIONS taken by the Israeli Air Force, that if successfull, would have laid the blame squarely on Egypt. Luckily, our AMERICAN-BUILT intelligence ship was tougher than their shitty little air force.

Here's the thing...I was listening to that very show last night on my walkman - Alex was discussing how he BUSTED Brad Davis on his ensuing hit piece against 9/11 Truthers, and the tactics understaken to do so. The ONE THING that these tools NEVER do is ADDRESS THE FACTS.

The Drug War...let me guess...you love those bloody pharmaceuticals, don't you? You are nothing but a REAL useless eater...you will suck on any diseased teat that is offered to you, and you will toe the line like a good little useless eater, won't you?

Esctasy - good!

Marijuana - bad!

Do you know that there are only three reasons marijuana is made illegal here in the U.S.?

1. Marijuana can cure most ills, including CANCER.

2. Marijuana aids in the INDEPENDENT THOUGHT PROCESS.

3. Most importantly, marijuana cannot be GENETICALLY MODIFIED!

Otherwise, Monsanto and all of those other purveyors of FrankenFoods would be at the forefront making RoundUp-Ready weed and they would ELIMINATE EVERY OTHER MARIJUANA CROP AROUND THE WORLD.

So...Brad, lokis, and any others...you can take your shared delusions of grandeur, your lies to start a war, and you can shove them up your diseased tuchises.

WE THE PEOPLE will not stand for any more!

Monday, June 16, 2008

Rosie O'Donnell 9/11 Conspiracy Comments: Popular Mechanics Responds

Click here to listen to Charles Goyette

Recently, Rosie O’Donnell, a co-host of ABC talk show The View, made comments on the show that renewed controversy over the collapse of World Trade Center 7.

While saying she didn’t know what to believe about the U.S. government’s involvement in the attacks of Sept. 11, she said, “I do believe that it’s the first time in history that fire has ever melted steel. I do believe that it defies physics that World Trade Center tower 7—building 7, which collapsed in on itself—it is impossible for a building to fall the way it fell without explosives being involved. World Trade Center 7. World Trade [Center] 1 and 2 got hit by planes—7, miraculously, the first time in history, steel was melted by fire. It is physically impossible.”

She continued: “To say that we don’t know that it imploded, that it was an implosion and a demolition, is beyond ignorant. Look at the films, get a physics expert here [on the show] from Yale, from Harvard, pick the school—[the collapse] defies reason.” (Watch the clip here)

For those interested in what physics and demolition experts have said regarding WTC 7’s collapse, as detailed in our book Debunking 9/11 Myths, Popular Mechanics offers these notes:

1. Initial reports from the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) misunderstood the amount of damage the 47-floor WTC7 sustained from the debris of the falling North Tower—because in early photographs, WTC7 was obscured by smoke and debris.

Towers 1 and 7 were approximately 300 ft. apart, and pictures like the ones here and here offer a clear visual of how small that distance is for structures that large. After further studies, the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) told Popular Mechanics that debris from the 110-floor North Tower hit WTC7 with the force of a volcanic eruption. Nearly a quarter of the building was carved away over the bottom 10 stories on its south face, and significant damage was visible up to the 18th floor (see p. 24 of this report, and the screengrab below of an image of WTC7's damaged south face).



The unusual design of WTC7 is also crucial to the discussion, in that key columns supported extreme loads—as much as 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor—as the building straddled an electrical substation. “What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors,” NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder told Popular Mechanics, “it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down.” The tower wasn’t hit by a plane, but it was severely wounded by the collapse of the North Tower. Which is when the fires started.

2. The North and South Towers of the World Trade Center weren’t knocked down by planes—they both stood for more than a half-hour after the impacts. But the crashes destroyed support columns and ignited infernos that ultimately weakened—not melted—the steel structures until the towers could no longer support their own weights (NIST offers a primer here). Ms. O’Donnell fundamentally misstates the case with her use of the word “melted”: Evidence currently points to WTC7 also collapsing because fires weakened its ravaged steel structure.

Tower 7 housed the city’s emergency command center, so there were a number of fuel tanks located throughout the building—including two 6000-gal. tanks in the basement that fed some generators in the building by pressurized lines. “Our working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time,” according to Sunder. Steel melts at about 2,750 degrees Fahrenheit—but it loses strength at temperatures as low as 400 F. When temperatures break 1000 degrees F, steel loses nearly 50 percent of its strength. It is unknown what temperatures were reached inside WTC7, but fires in the building raged for seven hours before the collapse.

3. Demolition experts tell Popular Mechanics that wiring a building the size of WTC7 for clandestine demolition would present insurmountable logistical challenges. That issue aside, there’s a clear-cut engineering explanation for why the building fell the way it did. Trusses on the fifth and seventh floors of the building were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another; with the south face heavily damaged, the other columns were likely overtaxed. In engineering terms, the “progressive collapse” began on the eastern side, when weakened columns failed from the damage and fire. The entire building fell in on itself as the slumping east side dragged down the west side in a diagonal pattern. Still, damage to the Verizon Building (see p. 21 of this report), directly west of WTC7, and to Fiterman Hall (see here) directly north, show that it was hardly an orderly collapse.

NIST is currently preparing its final report on the collapse of WTC7, which is expected to be released this spring. In order to address concerns of conspiracy theorists, the organization added “Hypothetical Blast Analysis” to its research, according to a December 2006 progress report. The report also points out that “NIST has found no evidence of a blast or controlled demolition.”

"Yup...just move along...nothing to see here..."

I WON'T MOVE ALONG...

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