9/11 Experiments: Eliminate the Impossible

I wish this video had been available eight years ago...this could have put an end to all of the nonsense We The People have endured for so long.

9/11: EXPLOSIVE TESTIMONY EXCLUSIVE - Dr. Niels Harrit - Chemist

AE911Truth's EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW!

Chemist Dr. Niels Harrit - One of the scientists who found thermite in the World Trade Center dust discusses Thermite, Nanothermite, Explosives and Incendiaries.

You Are A WATERHEAD If You Believe Fires Brought Down WTC 7

I'm glad someone has made this video available...but it really shouldn't have been necessary. Physics dictates that the explanation provided by the "official" story of the events of September 11th, 2001 doesn't hold water. Unfortunately, the heads of the believers hold too much water, apparently.

Yeah - I'm back, scumbags! Go ahead and fill your shorts.

I see also that Adam Austin is being labeled a disinfo agent. You have to being kidding. Subverted Nation is the real deal, ladies and gentlemen.

Niels Harrit Versus A Troll

I had the comments section open to Liberal White Boy's Posting on Lucky Larry, when I noticed a couple of comments by this tard named Albury Smith.

Now it's a flame war, and I'm looking for a blowtorch.

Incidentally, he left a link in a number of his postings (apparently, he will repeat postings like a mental patient - I guess he hasn't read the definition of INSANITY) - this is where he attempts to "debate" Dr. Niels Harrit.

Read it here.

I've a meeting - I'll be back.

Okay...not sure if my comment was accepted - no loss.

I wanted to speak about the so-called "settlement" offered to the first responders who had to sue New York City for assuring them that "the air was safe to breathe" while they inhaled their fellow New Yorkers, dust and every bit of particulate matter permeating the air at Ground Zero. Those affected were offered a paltry $657 million to settle their suits...but I forgot - what about the lawyer's cut?!?

I was going to perform a rough calculation, but Judicial-Inc did it for me:

The Lawyer's Cut

A normal fee arrangement is 33% plus expenses (depositions, discovery, travel, meals, etc) on a $ 1,000,000,000.00 Settlement.

$330 million......... in fees

$ 10 million .........in expenses

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$340,000,000.00 is their cut. And it was probably just a negotiation between Kenneth Feinberg and Marc Bern.

So...let's do 33% of $657.000,000:

That gives us roughly $216,810,000 - throw in $65,700,000 (expenses, natch!), and we've got $282,510,000...for two lawyers.

That leaves...oh, about $374,490,000...to divide between 10,000 clients. That's easy...just whack off the four zeros at the end of the original amount. That's right - a little over $35 grand for the people risking their own health, while the LAWYERS get away with the booty.

What's wrong with this story, dear readers?

Jesse Ventura Claims Government Involved In 9/11

I understand that this page disappeared from HuffPost - this could be interesting:

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Former Minnesota governor says Bush administration tied to attacks
TODAY books
updated 9:04 a.m. ET, Tues., March. 9, 2010

In his new book, “American Conspiracies: Lies, Lies, and More Dirty Lies That the Government Tells Us,” former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura begins an investigative journey to prove that there is more to our national history than the government wants us to know. In this excerpt, he writes about an alleged 9/11 cover-up.

Chapter 12: What really happened on September 11?

The incident: On September 11, 2001, four airplanes were hijacked on American soil and crashed into the Twin Towers, the Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania.

The official word: The 19 hijackers were all fanatic Muslim terrorists linked to al-Qaeda and its ringleader, Osama bin Laden.

My take: Our government engaged in a massive cover-up of what really happened, including its own ties to the hijackers. Unanswered questions remain about how the towers were brought down, and whether a plane really struck the Pentagon. The Bush Administration either knew about the plan and allowed it to proceed, or they had a hand in it themselves.

I was in my third year as Minnesota’s governor on September 11, 2001. After the devastation of the Pentagon being hit and the Twin Towers falling, I put the National Guard on alert and secured some of our public buildings. The following Sunday morning, we were the first state to hold a memorial for the nearly 3,000 victims. More than 40,000 people showed up on the front lawn of the State Capitol, while a steady rain fell. I’ll never forget Native American shamans beating drums alongside honor guards who represented the police and firefighters and military.

It still chokes me up to think about it. Looking out on hundreds of flags fluttering in the breeze, I remember saying at the end of two hours: “We will promote good against evil. And finally, we will together restore our sense of freedom by conquering this enemy!”

I never wanted to believe anything different than what our government told us about that tragic day. But here is what John Farmer, a Senior Counsel for the 9/11 Commission who drafted the original report, has to say in a new book: “At some level of the government, at some point in time ... there was an agreement not to tell the truth about what happened.”

What more do we need? Are we willing to live with another lie to go with the Warren Report, the Iran-Contra cover-up, and many other “official” stories?

I certainly never expected to think that elements of the Bush Administration were complicit with the enemy. Today, though, I am convinced that some people inside our government knew the attack was going to happen and allowed it to come to pass — because it furthered their political agenda.

I don’t necessarily believe that they orchestrated it themselves, although the door is definitely open to that. I say this after expending many hours researching things about the official story that don’t add up, and interviewing a number of witnesses with firsthand knowledge that contradicts what we were told. As a patriotic American, I say this with a heavy heart — and with an outrage that really knows no words. But it’s something we, as a nation, must come to terms with. Otherwise, it could happen again.

From day one, there was something that puzzled me. You had four airplanes being hijacked on the same morning. Maybe the first one snuck by the radar — but the next three? I’d been inside air traffic control, where you’ve got a dozen people watching every plane in their sector. They know what direction all the aircraft are supposed to be going, and here were four planes going directly opposite of their normal flight path. But we’re supposed to believe that no alarm bells went off anywhere, so no fighter jets got scrambled to intercept the planes. Was everybody asleep at the switch? How could the FAA and our air defenses experience such a miserable failure?

I want to tell you a short story about a guy named Charles Lewis, who my writing colleague Dick Russell interviewed recently in Southern California.

Until two months before September 11, Lewis had worked at LAX as the Quality Control Manager for Kiewit Pacific Construction on its Taxiway “C” project. A large part of his duties involved security in the Airport Operations Area, or AOA. There he got to know employees of various agencies — the LA World Airport Police, the LAPD, California Highway Patrol, the FBI, U.S. Customs, and others.

When the 9/11 attacks occurred, Lewis was a deputy inspector for the city of LA during a seismic retrofit of the LA Hilton Towers Hotel, only a few minutes from the airport by car. After making sure the hotel construction crew went home, Lewis rushed over to LAX’s Guard Post 2, because he was one of very few people who knew how to fix certain parts of the new security systems in case any problems developed.

Lewis estimates he arrived at about 6:35 AM (PT — 9:35 AM Eastern), not long after the second plane struck the World Trade Center. As on other days, there was “chatter” on LAX Security walkie-talkies and he could easily hear what they were saying, sometimes both sides of the conversation.

Lewis remembers: “The first thing I noticed was that the guards — and that day they were the LA World Airport Police and the FBI — were very upset and agitated because apparently no one [from FAA] had notified NORAD [North American Aerospace Defense Command]. They were making calls and demanding to know why not. Eventually word came back that NORAD had indeed been notified, but they had been ordered to stand down. Then LAX Security wanted to know who could have made that order. And word came back that it was from the highest level of the White House. Later on, watching television, I knew the order didn’t come from Bush because he was reading ‘My Pet Goat’ to the school kids in Florida, so the only other person it could be was Dick Cheney.”

It turns out there were some “war games” taking place that morning. September 11 was the second day of Vigilant Guardian, an exercise of the Joint Chiefs and NORAD that simulated planes being hijacked in the Northeastern United States. Another drill, called Northern Vigilance, had shifted some fighter jets to Canada and Alaska to monitor Russian MIGs flying training missions. This one put “phantoms” on military radar screens that would look real to the participants in the exercise. “We fought many phantoms that day,” Richard Myers of the Joint Chiefs later testified to Congress.

But could the attack have been scheduled intentionally to coincide with those war games? If so, this raises a couple of questions. Either there was a major intelligence leak, whereby the terrorists realized the war games would be a good cover for their operation. Or else some people in the administration knew of the attack ahead of time and let it proceed simultaneously, knowing the confusion this would cause.

Between September 2000 and June 2001, on 67 different occasions fighter jets were sent to intercept aircraft that had lost radio contact or their transponder signal or were flying off course, usually within ten minutes of any sign of a problem. (Contrary to what some people think, presidential approval wasn’t needed to intercept or even shoot down an aircraft.) Then, on June 1, 2001, the existing hijacking response procedures were changed to require approval by the secretary of defense before responding to a situation with lethal force. And when the call came into the Pentagon on 9/11, nobody answered the phone!

The stand-down order that Charles Lewis heard about was confirmed by none other than Norman Mineta, transportation secretary at the time. According to the 9/11 Commission, Cheney didn’t arrive underground at the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) until almost 10 AM. Mineta, however, said the Vice President was already down there when he arrived at about 9:20 AM. Richard Clarke and Cheney’s photographer indicated the same thing. That was before the Pentagon had been hit, and Mineta recalled a young man coming into the PEOC three times to tell Cheney how far out the plane was from Washington. After the third report, according to Mineta, the young fellow asked, “Do the orders still stand?” and Cheney responded, “Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?” The 9/11 Commission chose to ignore Mineta’s testimony and went so far as to remove it from the video archive.

Video: Jesse Ventura tackles ‘American Conspiracies’
Instead, they had Cheney ordering, almost 45 minutes later than Mineta said, the inbound aircraft be shot down. Except, by then, all four planes had already gone down. That was cover-up number one by the 9/11 Commission. Now let’s look at whether it was actually those two planes that were responsible for the falling towers. I was amazed, watching the 2007 version of the documentary Loose Change (which I urge everyone to see), at the many firefighters and other eyewitnesses who talked about a whole series of explosions before and during the collapse of the buildings. All of this was reported on the news at the time. Before the South Tower collapsed, video footage clearly shows sizable amounts of white smoke starting to pour out of the base. There was described a “giant rolling ball of flame” that came up from street level; an elevator that exploded on the 65th floor as someone stood beside it; a woman on the 49th floor seeing people with burns and broken arms in the stairwells. “For every window in the lobby to be exploding ... it wasn’t from the jet fuel, no way,” according to one of the witnesses. And a whole lot more that did not jive with any plane striking the building. Barry Jennings, the city’s emergency coordinator, was at the scene before and after the building collapses. Jennings puts it out there plainly: “I know what I heard. I heard explosions.”

For my TV show, I interviewed a witness named William Rodriguez, a janitor who happened to have a master key and rescued many people and got honored at the White House as a national hero. He says that shortly before American Airlines Flight 11 struck the North Tower at 8:46 AM, an explosion simultaneously rocked the building so hard “it pushed us up.” Rodriguez later testified behind closed doors to the 9/11 Commission, but his name was never mentioned in the report. Rodriguez also gave the commission and the FBI a list of fourteen people who’d been with him, but not a single one was ever contacted. He produced his boss for us, who looked me right in the eye and in essence told me the same story. What’s happened to Rodriguez today? He’s on the no-fly list. A guy who went back in to save people, with no regard for his own life! When he goes somewhere, he’s pulled out of the line, interrogated, harassed. All because, I guess, he didn’t give the “proper testimony” they wanted.

Some people have argued that the twin towers went down, within a half hour of one another, because of the way they were constructed. Well, those 425,000 cubic yards of concrete and 200,000 tons of steel were designed to hold up against a Boeing 707, the largest plane built at the time the towers were completed in 1973. Analysis had shown that a 707 traveling at 600 miles an hour (and those had four engines) would not cause major damage. The twin-engine Boeing 757s that hit on 9/11 were going 440 and 550 miles an hour.

Still, we are told that a molten, highly intense fuel mixture from the planes brought down these two steel-framed skyscrapers. Keep in mind that no other such skyscraper in history had ever been known to collapse completely due to fire damage. So could it actually have been the result of a controlled demolition from inside the buildings? I don’t claim expertise about this, but I did work four years as part of the navy’s underwater demolition teams, where we were trained to blow things to hell and high water. And my staff talked at some length with a prominent physicist, Steven E. Jones, who says that a “gravity driven collapse” without demolition charges defies the laws of physics. These buildings fell, at nearly the rate of free-fall, straight down into their own footprint, in approximately ten seconds. An object dropped from the roof of the 110-story-tall towers would reach the ground in about 9.2 seconds. Then there’s the fact that steel beams that weighed as much as 200,000 pounds got tossed laterally as far as 500 feet.

The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) started its investigation on August 21, 2002. When their 10,000-page-long report came out three years later, the spokesman said there was no evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. But Steven E. Jones also says that molten metal found underground weeks later is proof that jet fuel couldn’t have been all that was responsible. I visited the site about three weeks after 9/11, with Governor Pataki and my wife, Terry. It didn’t mean anything to me at the time, but they had to suspend digging that day because they were running into heat pockets of huge temperatures. These fires kept burning for more than three months, the longest-burning structure blaze ever. And this was all due to jet fuel? We’re talking molten metal more than 2,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

Probably the most conclusive evidence about a controlled demolition is a research paper (two years, nine authors) published in the peer-reviewed Open Chemical Physics Journal, in April 2009. In studying dust samples from the site, these scientists found chips of nano-thermite, which is a high-tech incendiary/explosive. Here’s what the paper’s lead author, Dr. Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen’s chemistry department, had to say about the explosive that he’s convinced brought down the Twin Towers and the nearby Building 7:

“Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding.

It can also be used to melt other iron. So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel.”

Richard Gage is one of hundreds of credentialed architects and structural engineers who have put their careers on the line to point out the detailed anomalies and many implications of controlled demolition in the building collapses. As he puts it bluntly: “Once you get to the science, it’s indisputable.”

So what happened to the steel debris from the World Trade Center that might have backed this up? Well, for the most part it was shipped overseas. The removal by four companies contracted by the city was carefully controlled and monitored. The building assessment performance team wasn’t allowed to take samples. One firefighter I spoke with, who got dug out of the rubble on 9/11, said: “The one thing that always troubled me is, why were they in such a hurry to remove all the evidence? Why did they take away everything from the site as fast and expediently as possible?”

I tried to talk to someone from the 9/11 Commission, but got turned down multiple times. They simply said, we stand by our report. I also tried to speak with Mayor Giuliani, but he refused also. We recently learned, through the D.A. of Manhattan’s testimony in a court case, that the city of New York did nothing to investigate 9/11. That tells me Giuliani was nothing but a straw man. Why is he paraded around as this big hero when he really had nothing to do with it, other than be a figurehead?

Excerpted from “American Conspiracies” by Jesse Ventura. Copyright (c) 2010, reprinted with permission from Skyhorse Publishing.

© 2010 MSNBC Interactive

Japanese Have Washington Post Running Scared Over 9/11 - David Martin

Dear readers...I present to you another gem from David Martin:

Japanese Have Washington Post Running Scared over 9/11

The issue, as framed by the U.S. ruling elite’s hometown house organ is very simple; a top insider in Japan’s new government has lost his marbles. The Washington Post’s apoplexy over the fact that Councilor Yukihisa Fujita isn’t buying the official version of what happened on September 11, 2001, is well reflected in the two headlines it gave to its March 8, 2010 editorial. First we have the print edition:

Poisonous Thinking in Japan

Has a conspiratorial view of 9/11 taken hold in the ruling party?

Then we have the even more hysterical headline in the electronic version:

A Leading Japanese Politician Espouses a 9/11 Fantasy

The two paragraphs below capture the flavor of The Post’s screed. I have provided some educational assistance for the reader by supplying useful links. Only the last of the six links was in The Post’s original online version.

Fujita's ideas about the attack on the World Trade Center, which he shared with us in a recent interview, are too bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus to merit serious discussion. He questions whether it was really the work of terrorists; suggests that shadowy forces with advance knowledge of the plot played the stock market to profit from it; peddles the fantastic idea that eight of the 19 hijackers are alive and well; and hints that controlled demolition rather than fire or debris may be a more likely explanation for at least the collapse of the building at 7 World Trade Center, which was adjacent to the twin towers.

As with almost any calamity whose scale and scope assume historic proportions, the events of Sept. 11 have spawned a thriving subculture of conspiracy theorists at home and abroad. The only thing novel about Mr. Fujita is that a man so susceptible to the imaginings of the lunatic fringe happens to occupy a notable position in the governing apparatus of a nation that boasts the world's second-largest economy.


The giveaway as to how frantic The Post is over this matter is that they are editorializing before reporting. That Fujita, who as a graduate of Keio University is about as plugged in to Japan’s ruling “old boy” network as it is possible to be, has abandoned the 9/11 sinking ship was not previously even mentioned in The Post or anywhere else in the mainstream U.S. press, to my knowledge.

Now The Post tells us that they have interviewed him, and here we see them running out of the interview screaming like Chicken Little. So where is the interview itself? Shouldn’t we all raise a hue and cry for The Post to print the whole thing so we can decide for ourselves whether Fujita’s "ideas" (conclusions based upon an examination of the evidence?) really "are too bizarre, half-baked and intellectually bogus to merit serious discussion." The Post can’t claim lack of print space. We’re in the Internet age now. We don’t really need the mainstream media to give us all our opinions pre-chewed and digested.

I’m not holding my breath waiting for The Post to print that interview, no matter how much we might clamor for it. It would be nice if Fujita taped it and publishes it himself.

David Martin
March 8, 2010

Academic Correctness - John Thames

Having a bit of a tussle over at CounterKnowledge...I thought you might enjoy this cogent bit of material by John Thames.

“ACADEMIC CORRECTNESS”

Career academics, when confronted by the heresy of “Holocaust Denial”, invariably revert to the doctrine of “academic correctness”. Academic correctness is the doctrine that only university-trained historians are competent to pronounce on the truth of any supposedly settled historical controversy. This, of course, is the mentality of a priestly caste, self-appointed to pontificate to the people who lack their superior wisdom. It is not hard to puncture the illusions and pretensions of this pack of charlatans. In fact, it is ridiculously easy. These professional know-it-alls are constantly having to “revise” their findings on all kinds of subjects. This is a polite way of stating that they got it all wrong the first time. Naturally, they will not admit they got it wrong. Instead, they will argue that they were reasoning based on incomplete information and, naturally changed their minds when they got “fuller information”. The possibility that the hoax of the extermination of Europe’s Jews may have been hidden behind a fog of disinformation and that a hidden archive of “new information” may be awaiting them is, of course, too implausible to consider.

Now, as to the lengthy record of misinformation and deliberate lying achieved by these charlatans. I have already commented at length on the World War One and Pearl Harbor lies of these distinguished academics. Now I shall address another such example. For years now, the real history of the Zionist state has been hidden behind a propaganda legend of the “only democracy in the Middle East”. The average American remains abysmally ignorant of the real history of Zionism. Most Americans do not even know that the British were ever in control of Palestine between the two world wars. As for any knowledge of the British White Papers or Royal investigations during the 1920’s or 1930’s, one might as well speak Greek to the average American. The first major history to attempt to write the suppressed story for the benefit of an American audience was Dr. Robert John’s “The Palestine Diary” back in 1970. The publication of the book has a very interesting history. Dr. John submitted it to a great many university presses for publication. It was invariably rejected. The reasons for rejection had nothing to do either with the quality of the research or the writing, both of which were admittedly very good, but with fear of Zionist reprisal. Dr. John found that there was always at least one Zionist on the university review boards, who would immediately veto publication. Despite the fact that his book had the approval of, and a foreword by, world-renowned historian Arnold J. Toynbee, Dr. John was unable to find an academic publisher for the “Palestine Diary”. Eventually the “Palestine Diary” was published in Beirut by the Institute For Palestine Studies and in New York by New World Press. New World Press had its presses burned by unknown assailants and its entire run of copies destroyed. The publishers were themselves severely beaten with metal rods wrapped in rubber (a well-known Israeli torture technique). and their spines permanently injured. Dr. John, a consultant to American corporations on their legal obligations, was then driven from job to job as penalty for having published his book. The “lobby” had gotten him. Today, Dr. John’s book is regarded as a classic in its field. But in those days of historical cover up, the price of telling the truth was very high. De. John’s experience with the terrible power of Zionism parallels, in many ways, the ordeals of the Holocaust revisionists.

Now I shall review the lies and distortions of the historians of Zionism. For many decades the orthodox historians and media pundits have pretended that
: (1) there were never any Arabs in Palestine; (2) that if there were Arabs in Palestine they only arrived in response to the enormous prosperity the Jewish immigrants were supposedly creating (the Joan Peters “From Time Immemorial” nonsense); (3) that the Arabs voluntarily vacated Palestine in 1948 rather than being expelled by Zionist force; (4) that the Jews in the 1948 war were confronted by Arabs who had them outnumbered and outgunned; (5) that the Jews did not commit atrocities in the war to deliberately terrorize the Arab civilian population, etc. Those lies have been repeated endlessly by “reputable people” in the universities and media for decades. Only now are those lies starting to break down. The Israeli revisionist historians ( Sima Flaphan, Benny Morris, Ilan Pape, Avi Shlaim, etc. ) have proved conclusively that the histories of their forefathers were shame-faced lies. Had any student of the 1950’s dared to make the charges since corroborated by Morris, et.al., he would have been denounced as a “conspiracy theorist” suffering from delusional right wing fantasies. It would be the same charge, in essence, as that leveled against the increasingly confirmed Pearl Harbor revisionists. In short, the decades old historiography of Zionism is as much a lie as the English saga of World War One, the myth of a German sneak attack on an innocent, unprovoked Russia, the myth of Roosevelt’s “surprise” at Pearl Harbor, the myth of Hitler’s hostility toward the British Empire, the myth of scientific socialism and the greatest myth of all, the so-called Holocaust.

Academic correctness is the cover for a priestly caste of intellectual prostitutes, courageous in their timidity, devoted to the vested interests which employ them and willing to attack any myth of the political underground while fleeing in terror at any exposure of the ethnic blanket that tucks them beneath the unpleasant facts they are paid to ignore.

I need to add this info here:

The JIDF Guide to Hostile Facebook Groups

(please disregard the date above, this happened in 2008...we move it around on the site since our enemies often link to it telling people to join the groups which still remain...)

Through the creation of 4 proactive Facebook groups, The JIDF initiated a 35 day campaign urging 5,000 people to report all the following groups. During that time, 106 groups were deleted, impacting 125,290 hate mongering, terror supporting antisemites. The list that follows are the groups which remain. Many more groups crop up daily. At this point, it is impossible for The JIDF to continue listing all the new groups. Significant funds need to be raised in order to effectively fight this problem. Also, Jewish Leadership must coordinate with the management of Facebook to help develop plans to fight this problem. Since Facebook has ignored the thousands of complaints, the media has to do its job to report the problem in order to pressure Facebook to do something and the government should be alerted as to possible terrorist recruiting and activity.


HOW TO REPORT GROUPS:

1) Click on the group in question
2) Scroll down to the very bottom left corner
3) Click "report group"
4) Complete, by explaining the "Reason" (ie. attacks individuals or groups, it is a terrorist group, this group promotes violence, this group promotes hatred, and/or this group is for the destruction of Israel, and the USA, etc.)
5) Send!
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ARABIC SITES:

If you see Arabic and don't understand, or if you'd like to write messages in Arabic, try this tool:

http://www.google.com/translate_t

Feel free to find more groups and post them to the discussion area (and please, ONLY IN THE DISCUSSION AREA) and they will be added.
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HOW TO KNOW IF A SITE IS GONE:

If you click a link and it just goes to your facebook homepage, it means WE HAVE DONE OUR JOB and the group has been deleted!
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ALERT THE MEDIA:

http://www.thejidf.org/2008/05/sample-email-activsm-letter-media.html

-where you'll find a letter to copy and paste and a list of email addresss
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FACEBOOK'S OWN RULES/TERMS:

One cannot "upload, post, transmit, share, store or otherwise make available any content that we deem to be harmful, threatening, unlawful, defamatory, infringing, abusive, inflammatory, harassing, vulgar, obscene, fraudulent, invasive of privacy or publicity rights, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable"

Also, one cannot "upload, post, transmit, share, store or otherwise make available content that would constitute, encourage or provide instructions for a criminal offense, violate the rights of any party, or that would otherwise create liability or violate any local, state, national or international law;"
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So why are these groups able to exist? They have each been reported many times, so Facebook is aware of the problem, but not doing enough.
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THE LIST

-please note, this is a list of groups we feel have a significant amount of Jew hatred and/or pro-Terrorist sentiment in them. while sometimes it is glaringly obvious, it might also be a rather subjective thing. therefore, we advise you to visit the groups and make your own decision as to whether or you should report them.

-also, the ones at the top have been remaining the longest and the "new additions" are added to the bottom:

Shi'aa + Sunna = Destroying Israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15647020220
ZozZa Moi (Norway) (creator)
Samah Salameh (no network)
Lebanese Angel (Lebanon)
201 members
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الجبهة الشعبية لتحرير فلسطين
(The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6472453004
AmJad Murad (St. George's School) (creator)
Ghassan Halayka (St. George's School)
89 members
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Yaser Arafat
(yes he WAS a terrorist: http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_article=795&x_context=7)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2243284816
Abdulrahman Abdulrahim (United Arab Emirates) (creator)
369 members
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YASSER ARAFAT
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2212224824
Khalid Kaleed Al-Khalilee (Akron) (creator)
290 Members
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Yasser Arafat
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6044034397
MohannaD AhmaD (Palestine) (creator)
Owda Ismaill (no network)
Amer Faisal (Romania)
190 members
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I love Saddam Hussein
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8323245049
Amina Mohamed (Pakistan) (creator)
Najm Al Arabe (no network)
Elham Moubarak (Lebanon)
Ward Al Baath (Iraq)
168 members
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I Support An All Out War Against The Zionist Regime To Liberate Palestine!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2255274160
Rahim Ibn Abbas (Boston, MA) (creator)
82 members
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stop israel groups in FaceBook...We hate israel(countr of criminals) ..!..
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7201928953
Mohammad Mahairie (Jordan) (creator)
91 members
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Eliminate Israel From Being - إزالة إسرائيل من الوجود
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9026413417
Abdulkarim Tohmaz (Lebanon) (creator)
2,863 Members
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ALL THE WORLD HATES (ISRAEL)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6238028695&ref=share
* Heba Hamdy Abo Sef (Egypt)
* Amr Elsayed Mohamed (Egypt)
7,163 members
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Friends of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2207966195
* Sayed M. Al-Mousawi (BU)
* Greg Sowden (Wilfrid Laurier)
* Hamad Bahrouh (Oklahoma)
380 Members
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Sayyid Qutb Appreciation Society :)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2224907882
(Qutb's call for the destruction of jahili Muslim governments may have roused terrorist jihadis to attack Western countries)
Iman Abdel-Aal (University of Leeds)
126 members
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ISRAEL SUCKS
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2255199618
Amjad Bandak (Jordan)
(filled w/ antisemitic rhetoric)
99 members
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who ever thinks that israel sucks join this group
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2677001071
"a group to show how many people hate israel"
Ahmed Abu Alasrar (The British International School of Jeddah) (creator)
58 people
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I HATE ( ISRAEL) FUCK U AND GO 2 HELL!!!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12607805335
Abdallah Raouf (Egypt) (creator)
275 members
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GUPS
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2322016652&ref=share
(interesting they say, "Our political differences, is our proud, Hamas, PFLP, Fateh" then go on to say something about "coexistence" - how twisted!
* Mahmoud Muna (Uni. Sussex) (creator)
* Iyad Odeh (Manchester Metropolitan University)
222 members
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fuck israel its called palastine u retards
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5217004763
(chants of "death to israel, terrorist propaganda, etc)
* Moataz Al-Sabbagh (Manarat Al- Riyadh School)
* Saif El Deeb (Qatar)
2,285 members
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Israel get the fuck out of all palastine,syria,lebanon
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6554075923
* Zaid Laham (Ryerson)
435 members
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the army of palastine ...jeash al t7reer .. ya flas6enieen join the group
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5030459026
(terror supporting)
Jackson Curtar (no network) (creator)
45 members
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palstine 4 ever
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13122086209&ref=share
Laith Nayef (Palestine) (creator)
280 members
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ISRAEL:THE LIE
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9617297578
* Aydoğan Özdemir (Armenia)
* Onur E. Kalaniz (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
* Shah Iran (Iceland)
* Alain Aslan (no network)
* Osman Mehmet Gazi (Turkey)
* Gokhan Ismailoglu (Switzerland)
* Nefeli Demetrios (Montreal, QC)
* Radim Ibrahim (no network)
* Ahmed Zezo (Egypt)
237 members
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بالروح بالدم نفديك يا فلسطين
http://yu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204383017
"With soul and blood we support you Palestine"
* Roberta Davenport (Berkeley)
* Hend Elomari (Wayne State University)
* Yussuf Salah (UC Irvine)
* Rashad Hararah (UC Davis)
* Summer 'freePalestine' Hararah (UC Davis)
* Lamees Hamada (Orange County, CA)
* Mohammad Hararah (Berkeley)
425 members
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PLO-Palestinian Liberation Organisation
http://yu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2228602835&ref=mf
* Wissam Abdallah (Australia) (creator)
* Walid A.H. (A. Y. Jackson Secondary School)
* Rajai Abou Khalil (Palestine)
145 members
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Fuck Israel
http://yu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204645367
Saad Mohammad (Harry Ainlay Senior High)
339 members
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Coalition for the End of Israel
http://yu.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204769261
* Ellyn Vranicar (Nazareth Academy)
* Alex Ramirez (St. Benedict High School)
* Donald Gehres (Hillsboro)
162 members
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3.29.08
Friends of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2207966195
* Sayed M. Al-Mousawi (BU)
* Greg Sowden (Wilfrid Laurier)
* Hamad Bahrouh (Oklahoma)
381 members
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3.29.08
Anti Zionist- Pro Life
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2245148513
* Asma Al-Sherri (Oxford High School)
* Momkaa Y
200 members
*this group praises hitler and is in support of the IHR which denies the holocaust
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3.29.08
Anti-Zionist
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5654378404
this is a MIRROR of the site listed just before it
Imad Moussa (Italy) (creator)
133 members
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3.29.08
Nazi Israel Must Go!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2452460324
Jamil Anouti (Arizona)
325 members
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3.29.08
...I hate Israel....انا بكره اسرائيل....
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6946686644&ref=share
737 members
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3.29.08
We bet we can find 1.000.000 person hate "Israel"
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10403436612
3,536
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3.29.08
ISRAEL = EVIL
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10016532742
Ahmad H. Baajour (no network) (creator)
110 members
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3.30.08
هــل انتــم مــع اســقــاط الـكيــان الصــهيوني ودولــة اسـرائيــل
(translated: Are you with topple the Zionist entity and the State of Israel?)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12473766355
1,665 members
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3.30.08
بدء تاريخ سقوط دولة إسرائيل
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23545360816
5,412 members
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3.30.08
How Many People Hate Israel ?
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8507643082
7,882 members
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3.30.08
we love islam ...... we hate israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4739595179
383 members
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3.30.08
WE HATE ISRAEL
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2966974121
383 members
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3.30.08
i hate israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2235937131
289 members
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3.30.08
i hate israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14127485611
347 members
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3.30.08
We hate israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2360917118
259 members
3.30.08
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( I HATE ISRAEL ) when there is nothing you can do, at least say a word...
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7786067754
289 members
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3.30.08
10 reasons to hate israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2649211549
196 members
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3.30.08
We hate israel (Shabab Masroof)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2240039818
197 members
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3.30.08
I HATE ISRAEL
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13563410407
179 members
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04.01.08
just Palestinians sooo.. fuck isreal
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2626370572
457 members
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04.01.08
JIHAD (STRUGGLE)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2311534356
74 members
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4.5.08
fuck Israel and zionism!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4683422206
53 members
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4.5.08
Tribute to al-Aqsa Martyrs´Brigades
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10384420481
3 members
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4.5.08
Petition to Revoke Independence of Rogue State Israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8060242399
42 members
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4.5.08
I bet I can find 1,000,000 people who want israel to be replacedbyPalestine
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7849209907
46 members
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4.5.08
The "Israeli Defence Forces (IDF)" are a TERRORIST organization
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8567673175
187 members
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4.7.08
Death to Israel!!!!!!!!!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2344902939
187 members
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4.7.08
No to peace!No to compromise!Just death to Israel!!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=22364045514
179 members
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4.7.08
death for israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8187461444
93 members
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4.7.08
Death to Israel لا لاسرائيل
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12179390497
73 members
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4/7/08
People for the Relocation of Israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2205383681
33 members
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4/7/08
Support Palestine's War Against Terrorism
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6116364773
359 members
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4/7/08
I SUPPORT PALESTINE AGAINST THE TERRORISM OF ISREAL
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9873645769
1,355 members
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4/7/08
Based on the facts....There was no Holocaust
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2452587161
144 members
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4/7/08
Jewish Genocide Is The BIGGEST LIE in the world
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4728557511
22 members
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4/7/08
****Jewish Holocaust****
(this is another Holocaust denial group)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7667529395
12 members
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4/7/08
fuck zionists PALESTINE/THE MIDDLE EAST ISNT YOURS
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2538271614
42 members
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4/7/08
Fuck Zionists
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2425229268
12 members
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4/7/08
100 AMAZING REASONS WHY I DONT SUPPORT ISRAEL AND YOU SHOULDNT EITHER
[for the record, they only give 10 “reasons”]
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7202433401
641 members
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4/8/08
Israel Invented Terror
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10115964585&ref=mf
23 members
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4.8.08
Haifa Al Fatah - حيفا الفتاة
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=7066766925
456 members
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4/8/08
Fuck Israel And Their Holocaust Bullshit
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=13090589185
10 members
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4.9.08
Free Palestine (cause)
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/causes/226?h=plw&recruiter_id=13795359
Sameer K. Kanal (Washington) (creator)
134,340 members
$5,800 donated
*demanding: West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem, right of return, etc. (probably won't be able to get it deleted, but you should know that many of the members in the aforementioned groups for the full destruction of Israel are also in this cause)
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4.9.08
i bet i can find 1,000,000 people who hates israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=23191761056
4,795 members
Hussein Faour (Lebanon) (creator)
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4.9.08
أنا بحب الاخوان يا أمن الدولة
"I love you Brotherhood State Security "
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33498330456&ref=share
(a Muslim Brotherhood group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood)
Osama Dorra (no network) (creator)
Moaz Abd El-kareem (Egypt)
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4.25.08
Israel doesn't exist
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2589520383
Omar Diab (United Arab Emirates)
Abed Alrhman Diab (United Arab Emirates)
1,389 members
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4.11.08
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the man!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2214936670
Syed M. A. Shah (UC Irvine)
373 members
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4.11.08
The Muammar Al-Gaddafi Fanclub
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2234920431
Ahmed K Arafa (London) (creator)
67 members
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4.11.08
If u Care About GAZA Join
(pro-Hamas)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9410810950
Abdallah Khawaja (Saudi Arabia) (creator)
539 members
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4.11.08
We All Die For You Palestine!
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6391327745
Mousa Palestine (Al Maarifa Intl. Private School) (creator)
521 members
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4.11.08
Ernst Zundel: Thought Criminal
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21794518576
(Holocaust denial)
Jake Koch (Chicago, IL) (creator)
12 members
_____________________________________________ 4.11.08
If I can't have your land, then you're an anti-semite!! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21094524664 Mordechai Cohen (Israel) (creator)
18 members
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4.11.08
United WORLDWIDE AGAINST israeli TERRORISM in Lebanon and Palestine
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8749232762 Wissam Sammouri (no network) (creator)
Shadi Bahsoun (Switzerland)
Hiba Fouani (no network) 2,601 members _____________________________________________ 4.11.08 White Nationalism
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10931194814 128 members
Joseph De Maistre (France) (creator) _____________________________________________ 4.11.08
Saskatchewan Aryan Nations
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15518746421 Jokull Madhorse (creator)
8 members
_____________________________________________ 4.11.08
Boycott Israeli Apartheid (cause) http://apps.facebook.com/causes/809?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290 Hesham Fahim (Waterloo) (creator) United Palestinian Appeal Inc. 6,545 supporters _____________________________________________ 4.11.08
BOYCOTT APARTHEID ISRAEL (cause) http://apps.facebook.com/causes/60025?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
Jonathan Adams (London) (creator)
36 members
_____________________________________________ 4.11.08
Cupcake Lovers Against The Israeli Colonization of Palestine (cause)
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/1882?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
The Rebuilding Alliance: A 501(c)3 nonprofit Nora Barrows-Friedman (East Bay, CA) (creator)
247 members _____________________________________________ 4.11.08 Palestine: Peace, Not Apartheid (cause) http://apps.facebook.com/causes/1389?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
* Nick Gaines (American School of Paris) (creator)
* Wael Ruba (Uni. Tromsø)
Search for Common Ground: A 501(c)3 nonprofit
156 members _____________________________________________ 4.11.08
People Against The Israeli Apartheid Wall !!! (cause) Palestinians for Peace and Democracy: A 501(c)3 nonprofit
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/7209?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
Fareed Kaloo (South Africa) (creator)
83 members
_____________________________________________ 4.11.08
Stop racism and discrimination on Facebook (cause) http://apps.facebook.com/causes/76650?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
Uri Even-Chen (no network) (creator)
41 members
_____________________________________________ 4.11.08 Hezbollah + Iran STAND STRONG (cause) http://apps.facebook.com/causes/77548?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
Ahmad Moussaoui (Detroit, MI) (creator)
1 member
_____________________________________________ 4.11.08
Hezbollah Supporters (cause)
Lebanon Community Hospital Foundation Inc A 501(c)3 nonprofit
**raising money for a terrorist organization on facebook!!! http://apps.facebook.com/causes/10628?facebook_url=true&recruiter_id=3897290
Ahmad Moussaoui (Detroit, MI) (creator)
Rouba Kamaleddine
312 members
_____________________________________________ 4.13.08
I Don't Hate Jews , I Hate Israel
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=25838940564 Mohammad AbuZant (United Arab Emirates) (creator)
99 members
_____________________________________________ 4.13.08
I ((L0VE PaLaStInE)) AnD ((I HaTe isreal)).......... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11137488914 Alaa Almadhoun (Saudi Arabia) (creator)
60 members
_____________________________________________ The Castrating Zionists fan group http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=10225691017 Kesh Fakir (St. Albans High School) (creator)
Alex Coetzee (South Africa)
41 members
_____________________________________________ 4.13.08
For a world without Zionists
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6254822918 Fernando Manzur (Chile) (creator)
210 members
_____________________________________________ 4.14.08
Zionism Crime
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=12443841750 Mohmmad Sehada Hmedat (Egypt) (creator)
7 members
_____________________________________________ 4.14.08
Israel takes up terrorism
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=14139292958 Mohmmad Sehada Hmedat (Egypt) (creator)
7 members
_____________________________________________ 4.15.08
The World Needs a Fascist
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2247372868 Joe Fabiano (Montreal, QC) (creator)
Nando Musano (Montreal, QC)
77 members
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4.15.08 White Pride (cause)
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/18423?h=plw&recruiter_id=14416300
Frederic Delaunois (Ecole Européenne de Bruxelles) (creator) 147 members _____________________________________________ 4.15.08
Monoculturalism
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/67727?h=plw&recruiter_id=14416300
Norton Sigismund (Los Angeles, CA) (creator)
Joseph De Maistre Joel Meyer (Vancouver, BC)
55 members _____________________________________________ 4.15.08
دافع عن العراق "for the Iraqi resistence" (cause) http://apps.facebook.com/causes/28728?h=plw&recruiter_id=2686161
Lina Mmhmc (Lebanon) (creator)
1,049 members _____________________________________________ 4.15.08
The Ultimate Muslim Warriors (featuring bloody swords!) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15331001146 Shakul Ali (creator)
Yasser Shousha (Egypt)
Jafrin Mumtaz Matin
Raisa Siddiqui (London)
Abu Ameenah
Roni Ahmed (Nike)
Tariq Hanif (Pakistan)
Sabbir Hossain (New York, NY)
HasaN Islam (London)
Ahmed Sammy Hegab (London)
Soheal Malik (Uni. Wolverhampton)
Omar Islam (Al Ain English Speaking School)
Azeem Uddin (London)
Ishaq 'Izzy' Ahmed
Lynn Pearly Wilson (Palestine)
Ahmed Abdelhafid (Monaco)
Asma Begum
Najiyah Beaton (Calgary, AB)
Rayyan AbdusSamad (Toronto, ON)
Saleh Abd' Allah (Bangladesh)
Kalam Mohammed (London)
Afzal Rahman (Bangladesh)
1,047 members _____________________________________________ 4.20.08
سل السيوف والحراب لصد عدوان العلمانية علي النقا http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11103583476&ref=share
“Sharpening the swords for the Anti-nekab Seculars” ***this group I got from someone in Egypt and had it confirmed by a Jewish friend from Lebanon. It is a terrorist group that bluntly discuss decapitation of infidels, it has been reported many times, yet remains. A friend received a death threat on the wall of this group. * Abu Nour Eddine (Egypt) * Almasry Masry (Egypt) * Muntaha Ahmad (Palestine) * Yousef Adileh (Palestine) * MarYam Ahmed (Lycée Al Horreya) * Maged Hossam (Egypt) 254 members
_____________________________________________ 4.23.08
Attawheed “Islamic Unity Movement”
(a quote from the description: “Cooperation in order to unify efforts for activating jihadist”) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=11267724356 Ahmad Min (Utica, NY) (creator)
Abudujana Albaghdadi (Lebanon)
42 members _____________________________________________ 4.23.08
الطلائع الطلاب "Vanguard student"
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8233051846 pro-PLO group (PLO still calls for the destruction of Israel)
Al-Tala'e Al-Tollabeyya (Jordan) (creator)
159 members _____________________________________________ 4.23.08
هو الرئيس... عليا الطلاق هو الرئيس Is the President ... High divorce is President
(This group is about Yousef Shaker Mohammed Dahlan, one of the founders of Fatah Youth Movement )
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8207183759 Ahmed Dabbah (Palestine) (creator)
182 members
_____________________________________________ 4.23.08
مؤيدين حركة فتح Fatah supporters
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=9278545747 Abdallah Hatem (Palestine) (creator)
80 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08
القائد الرمز خليل الوزير -أبو جهاد Commander Khalil al-symbol - Abu Jihad (One of the founders of Fatah, a terrorist organization)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5350816121 Ahmad Alwazir (Palestine) (creator)
Kanan Sourani (Palestine)
Mohammed Alafranji (Palestine)
Yousef Alzaeem (Palestine)
Bassem El-Wazir (Palestine)
Nizar Al Wazir (UMass Dartmouth)
Nidal W (Ryerson)
268members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 الزعيم الراحل صدام حسين رحمه الله The late leader Saddam Hussein, may God have mercy on him http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6991628645 Ashraf Amareen (Jordan)
Zaid Madanat (Jordan)
836 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 صوت العاصفة فتح
http://worldnet.ws/radio/index.html "Voice of the storm opening"
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6715383206 Rami Zeidan
296 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 غــــــــزة فتحاوية Gaza containers God
(This group seems to be an argument about whether Fatah or Hamas (both terror organizations) is better for Gaza)
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6604783655 Ahmed Hamdouna (Palestine) (creator)
Ihab Rada (Palestine)
Loai Abuaker (Palestine)
William Kareem (Palestine)
Neso Al Shawa Mohammed Hamdouna (Palestine)
102 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 الاسد صدام حسين Assad Saddam Hussein
(The History of Saddam Hussein) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5788389700 Khadeja Mustafa (Syria)
Asma Al-Kubeisy (Jordan)
Rasha Salman Al-Dulaimi Fadi Khateeb Waleed Al-share (Jordan)
,053 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08
الإخوان المسلمون The Muslim Brotherhood (A terrorist organization)
http://www.facebook.com/pages/-/30422236000
64 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08
بالوثائق : سلطة فتح = مستنقع من الفساد والعمالة pro-al aqsa martyrs brigade group
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4883818508
13 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08
FUCK ISRAEL
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2815895238
Ramzi Abu Dayya (Palestine) Alaa Jayousi
424 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08
الرئيس القائد الرمز المعلم الشهيد ياسر عرفات وفتح
President Mwalimu commander symbol and martyr Yasser Arafat's Fatah
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2443351368
32 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 I bet I can find 1,000,000 people who think 9/11 was an inside job (plenty of antisemtism to be found here) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20851105388 Faisal Yar (Saudi Arabia) (creator) 1,412 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 The Ultimate Muslim Warriors (celebrating the spread Islam through the sword) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=15331001146 * Shakul Ali (creator) * Qaisar Khalil (Pakistan) * Moinul Hussain (London) * Yasser Shousha (Egypt) * Jafrin Mumtaz Matin * Abu Ameenah Roni Ahmed (Nike) * Tariq Hanif (Pakistan) * HasaN Islam (London) * Ahmed Sammy Hegab (London) * Soheal Malik (Uni. Wolverhampton) * Omar Islam (Al Ain English Speaking School) * Azeem Uddin (London) * Ishaq 'Izzy' Ahmed * Lynn Pearly Wilson (Palestine) * Ahmed Abdelhafid (Monaco) * Asma Begum * Najiyah Beaton (Calgary, AB) * Rayyan AbdusSamad (Kitchener, ON) * Saleh Abd' Allah (Bangladesh) * Kalam Mohammed (London) * Afzal Rahman (Bangladesh) 1,943 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 La Yahood...Free Palestine "No Jews...Free Palestine" http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=6562422169 Muhammed Lodhi (United Arab Emirates) 44 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 mujahideen (a group celebrating and advocating Jihad) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2394954592 Yasser Shousha (Egypt) (creator) 117 members _____________________________________________ 4.24.08 Cem Hakkoyu Numune Sabun Yapalım.. (nazi group) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17142246534 Ali Yiğit Yıldırım (Turkey) (creator) 10 members
_____________________________________________ 4.24.08 Israel: Terrorist State http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2204616106 Zaid Derka Derka Khatib (Kent State) Mahmoud Khatib (Embry-Riddle) 982 members
_____________________________________________ 4.24.08 Yahudi ve Museviler Domuzdur... (an antisemitic group. need translation. this group praises hitler and is filling up quickly withwell known facebook Jew haters.) http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19153235870 Ali Yiğit Yıldırım (Turkey) (creator)
36 members
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15 questions 9/11 ‘truthers’ now need to answer

B.J. Edwards has replied to my Pilots For 9/11 Truth Debunk NIST with the crapfest seen below:

One of the standard claims of 9/11 “truthers” is that they are merely sceptical individuals with a healthy and understandable desire not to swallow US government propaganda at face value. The mantra “just asking questions” allows them to pose as wary and intelligent souls too accustomed to the concept of duplicity in high places to accept the “official story” of Al Qaeda’s role in planning and perpetrating the largest mass casualty terrorist attack in modern history. It also allows them to adopt an indignant tone when dealing with their critics, and to conflate attempts by debunkers to undermine their claims with both unquestioning acceptance of an “official cover-up” (irrespective of whether the debunker happens to be a supporter of the current US administration or not) and a systematic effort to deprive them of freedom of speech. It goes without saying that in the process the “truthers” set up two straw-men for them to knock down, but then they’re not very good at dealing with tougher critics.

The “just asking questions” approach has three further advantages to those of a paranoid mindset and a less than scrupulous approach to evidence and facts (if George Orwell were alive today, he’d appreciate the irony of serial disinformation merchants like Dylan Avery and David Ray Griffin posing as members of a “truth movement”, given their fast and loose approach to the historical record and scientific fact). Firstly, conspiracy theorists know that mud sticks: if you can make an accusation against an individual or group through innuendo and sly hints the latter has the hard task of proving the calumnies against them to be false. Film buffs will no doubt recall George C. Scott’s performance as the malevolent prosecutor in Anatomy of a Murder, and his repeated question to the defendant Ben Gazzara: “Exactly when did you stop beating your wife?” This approach sums up “truther debating tactics nicely.

Secondly, the claim that one is “just asking questions” is liberating, as it frees the truther of the obligation of actually constructing a coherent alternative theory - based on the evidence at hand - which is more convincing than the “official theory”. Why worry if the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolitions or not? Why worry if the hijackers were patsies or ghosts? Why worry if the Pentagon was hit by a missile or a jumbo jet piloted by remote control? Why worry if the passengers of the four planes are alive or not? With one or two exceptions (notably Michael Ruppert), 9/11 conspiracy theorists and their supporters do not actually outline a scenario which explains how and why the US government (in cahoots with the Israelis, or the military-industrial complex, or whoever else) slaughtered nearly 3,000 people - most of whom were American citizens - in a co-ordinated series of attacks which were then blamed on Arab Islamist terrorists. Most truthers lack sufficient moral courage to produce a real theory about 9/11 being an ‘inside job’ which combines motive with method and which can be tested against the evidence. Deep down, they know that once they venture into specific claims their case will be torn to shreds, and they will be exposed as ignorant frauds.

Thirdly, it makes the task of a truther an easy one: all he or she (there seem to be few female truthers around, which hopefully means that they won’t reproduce) has to do is google to get the appropriate “story” from Prison Planet, 9/11 Blogger, What Really Happened or a similar website. Hey presto, they get what they want: “The FBI said there were no phone calls from AA77!”; “4,000 Jews didn’t turn up to work at the WTC on 9/11!”; “Silverstein ordered the demolition of WTC7!” And so on and so forth.

Any genuine sceptic dealing with truthers - whether online or in the flesh - then has to (1) work out what the hell his or her interlocutor is talking about, and (2) ask themselves how exactly they made this claim, and if it has any substance. Anyone lacking either patience or detailed knowledge of the events of 11th September 2001 may be tempted to give them the benefit of the doubt. Debunkers are left with the time-consuming task of researching the historical background, and trying to assemble the relevant technical and scientific information, before they can actually verify the facts for themselves. In short, the truther can throw out a red herring or an outright distortion in a matter of minutes, leaving it up to other net users to take the time and trouble to verify their origin and accuracy.

Fortunately, yeoman work has been done by scores of individuals to actually put the record straight. Pat and James from Screw Loose Change, Mark Roberts, 9/11 Myths, Debunking 9/11 and 9/11 Guide in particular provide a valuable resource. The James Randi forum is particularly useful in that it provides commentators with specialist knowledge - military veterans, pilots, flight engineers, physicists, architects, forensic experts etc - with a platform to expose the anti-scientific claptrap and historical illiteracy of the truthers. This is the main reason why the JREF and its commentators arouse such hatred from the 9/11 conspiracy ghouls.

It’s time to turn the tables on the truthers. Rather than accept a situation in which the nutjobs and kooks who subscribe to 9/11 conspiracies can make their accusations willy-nilly, it is high time that their critics decided that they can “just ask questions” too. This particular debunker has decided that maybe, just for once, the onus for actually demonstrating the validity of their theories on the basis of systematic and critical analysis of the evidence belongs to the truthers, not to those who wish to expose their fallacies. As someone whose academic bias is based on history, I would like to pose the following challenge to the conspiracy-mongers:

Let’s take your thesis (that 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by the Bush administration, and covered up by a coalition of US government agencies, allied powers, big business and the media) as read. The following questions point to logical and factual gaps within that thesis. It is now up to you to answer these questions and explain why your theories are still valid. For your answers to be credible, they need to be detailed and based on verifiable evidence. No suppositions, no speculation, no unsupported assertions, just the facts. Stop “asking questions”, and provide answers. These fifteen initial questions will do for starters.

(The questions and proposed answers are below)

So...instead of answering very cogent questions, instead, we are faced with information far out of the mainstream, peppered with the usual stupidity (Osama bin Laden video confessions, MOSSAD agents so "stupid" that they would celebrate openly, etc.); now, I could entertain every questions posed here...but why waste my time? B.J. sure didn't answer any of my queries, so why should I indulge in explaining that which B.J. and his ilk will simply dismiss out of hand?

Here, now, is what I will counter his proposed shite-fest with:

The bin Laden video confessions were all FAKED (fatty bin Laden?!?);

The so-called "hijackers" in Florida and New Jersey were patsies and red herrings to cover the needed presence of the Israelis running their operations (Zoom Copters, other assorted mall kiosks, "Art Students");

The classification of all video evidence of the flyover at the Pentagon was to obfuscate the actual flight path and identity of the "craft" that struck the Pentagon;

Russia and the other world powers are still in a state of shock, as they watch our elected officials completely drop the ball in regards to ensuring the true safety of American citizens - they still can't believe that anyone believes the absolutely retarded cover stories being used to cover up outright treason and malfeasance;

The complete denial of physics and chemistry (building collapses, the effect of fire on steel);

Simply put, I can go on and on as to why your denial of reality is the true issue here...don't use dopey-ass terms like "islamofascism" that are made up by idiots like David Frum here and expect to turn anything around, especially considering what is occurring in Gaza right now...it's actually worse than what has happened in Africa! There is no question at all as to who the real murderers are here...and you should thank your gods that those people actually believe that something good will occur without their direct intervention...don't you idiots realize how easily you could be overrun, regardless of the weaponry you've finagled from America? Those people that you call offal and garbage exemplify the ideal of good neighbors. Try that crap here, and watch how fast your stupid carcasses are strung up for all to see.

It boggles the mind when I am confronted with such outright stupidity...and then to hear people almost mumbling in unison: "Take your meds."

I've an answer for you: go ahead and take ALL of your bloody meds, and fuck off to an asylum, because that's where idiots who blot out reality with reason-altering pharmaceuticals belong.

Update: See...someone else can completely see through the subterfuge of crap that these so-called "questions" posit...without further ado, here is what Rism said (posted at CounterKnowledge) on 17 December 2008:

This is what we call a straw man argument. None of these questions legitimately counter the question being asked about the official 9/11 story.
These questions are completely speculative and circumstantial.

I will demonstrate.

1. If Al Qaeda were not responsible for 9/11, then why was Ahmed Shah Massoud’s assassination so well co-ordinated with the attacks on New York and Washington?

We never said they weren’t responsible. Some did yes but others simply stated that it was allowed to happen. Also It is well known that Al Qaeda was created by the CIA to carry out operations against the soviets. This is done so the US cannot be easily tracked back to wrong doing. The US is doing the same thing right now in Iran by funding and arming anti-Iranian rebel groups to carry out attacks within Iran in order to provoke a response.

As for him being assassinated, there are many reasons why it could have happened. He could have had information that would compromise the mission or maybe would have been suspected of talking afterwords.

In conclusion this question is irrelevant and unanswerable by us truth seekers who are simply asking questions.

2. If 9/11 was a “false flag” operation intended to justify a pre-determined plan to invade Afghanistan, then why didn’t the CIA and other US government agencies do more to facilitate ties with the NA?

Again another unanswerable question. We do not know the inner workings of compartmentalized government operations.

A possible answer is not wanting to incorporate certain groups in the operation in fear of not being able to control the flow of information within these certain groups.

3. Why did bin Laden and al-Zawahiri suddenly leave their known locations and go to ground, if they were not anticipating imminent military action by the USA?

Again, Who knows, we aren’t in a position to be able answer questions like this.
Maybe its the same reason members of the Bin Laden family were flown out of the country. They need to protect their assets and since Al-Qedea was created by the CIA than surely certain people within in it are assets who cannot be compromised.

4. If 9/11 had been an inside job, and if there was a long-standing intention by Bush and his advisors to invade Afghanistan and overthrow the Taliban, then why did they have to scrabble around for a workable plan?

It was reported that they did have plans to attack Afghanistan before 9/11 Check the following links below for more info.
Its highly possible they pretended to be disorganized and not ready for a retaliation in order to further the idea that this attack was a complete surprise.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4587368/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1550366.stm

5. We are being asked to believe that the conspirators behind 9/11 decided that they would make the hijackers citizens of allies of the USA, not enemies. Why were they not given Iraqi, Iranian or Syrian identity?

Again, another question that is completely unknowable and unanswerable to someone simply asking questions about the official version. We do not know the inner workings of compartmentalized govt. black op programs. There are hundreds of reasons why they wouldn’t or couldn’t have given the hijackers different identities or country origins.

6. If the identities and the nationalities of the hijackers were faked, then why did the Saudi, Egyptian, Lebanese and UAE governments accept that citizens from their own countries were involved?

Answered above but to further reiterate my point we do know that the US and Saudi Arabia have intimate connections. You scratch my back I scratch yours. Why would Saudi leaders care if the hijackers were from their country wouldn’t be attacked? In fact that point alone gives the US more reason to use Saudis. Use patsies from a country that they know wont cry wolf about it. Any other country not in on it could have opened an investigation about the anomalies.

7. Assuming againt that 9/11 was an inside job, how could the US government realistically presume that the Russians and Pakistanis would actually permit the USA to effect regime change against the Taliban?

Because the world thought that the Taliban and Al-Qaeda was behind it. No country in the world following 9/11 doubted what had happened and who had did it. But again still we don’t know the true relationship of these countries or their prior knowledge of the attacks. We do know the head of Pakistan ISI had funded Muhammad Atta and was meeting with US politicians and officials the weeks leading up to the attack. So right there that shows a conflict of intrest on all sides.

These questions are straw men arguments that cannot be answered and does not dissprove in anyway the legitimate questions being asked about 9/11.
But I digress and will continue.

8. Assuming that claims of Mossad complicity in 9/11 (”dancing Israelis”, etc.) are correct, can the truthers suggest a feasible motive for the Israeli government conniving in an act of mass murder on US soil?

Again we do not know who perpetrated the attack or the true relationship between the US and Israel. However we do know that the attack on the USS liberty was a false flag event committed by Israel. This fact has been cooborated by survivors of the USS liberty.

Eye witness and whistle blower reports can be found here:
http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0693/9 …

9. Following on from this, assuming that the “five dancing Israelis” story isn’t a complete fabrication, what kind of secret service recruits undercover agents who compromise themselves by acting so ostentatiously in public?

Again a question that is unknowable with a cornucopia of possible answers. But my logic would say that the best recruits are those who know the least about the operation. Those who cant give up any real knowledge or information about the event.

10. If the WTC towers in New York City were destroyed by controlled demolitions rigged by US government agencies, then why were the fake terrorist attacks used to cover up these controlled demolitions so insanely convoluted?

Again another speculative question that doesn’t discount the physical impossibilities of that day. We do not know the reasons thought. Maybe for effect, maybe to shock people so much as to not question the events. There are so many reasons as to why things happened the way they did as well as assuming that things didn’t go as fully as planned. These are questions that cannot be answered by truth seekers who are simply pointing out holes in the official story.

11. where were the 17,000 Russian troops who were supposedly ready to invade Afghanistan when it came to the commencement of military operations in October 2001?

Again unknowable by anyone on our level. But its not hard to believe that plans and operation change or are even planted to spread dis info. We do not know how compartmentalized black op programs are run and we do not know these details or claim to know, we are simply asking questions about the anomalies of the events surrounding 9/11.

12. We are either supposed to believe that the CF personnel assigned to NORAD were too stupid to notice anything amiss in their headquarters - and query it - or that the Canadian government and the CF were complicit in 9/11. Which of these scenarios is true?

We dont know if they were told to stand down. However we do know there were multiple war game scenarios being carried out that morning involving hijacked airplanes. This could have led to confusion and scrambling of jets to the wrong place. Confusion works a lot better than blunt stand down orders wouldn’t you think?

13. If Al Qaeda were set-up for the 11th September attacks, then why have its leaders and spokesmen repeatedly affirmed their responsibility for - and pride in - these attacks?

Why wouldn’t they? Al Qaeda was created by the CIA and obviously just an arm of the agency. Why wouldn’t they use their proxy terrorist group to further the evidence that it was Al Qaeda? Also a child can tell that the video of Bin Laden are not of the same person. Refer to the following image:
http://www.911lies.org/911PRESS/which_bin_laden_fa …

14. If the hijacking and crashing of four passenger planes was engineered by the US government, then why did UA93 crash into an empty field in Pennsylvania?

We don’t know if a plane even crashed there. First responders on the scene reported no debris and no bodies, simply a hole in the ground. The following video shows evidence from satellite pictures that the scar in the ground where UA93 supposedly crashed had been there for years before 9/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-59kouBgO_s

15. Finally, if the US government is institutionally ruthless enough to organise the massacre of thousands of its own citizens in a series of “false flag” attacks, then why is it too squeamish to arrange for the deaths of the supposed “truth-seekers” (David Griffin, Kevin Barrett, Steven Jones, Richard Gage, the Loose Change team, Alex Jones, etc.) who have exposed their complicity in one of the most heinous crimes a government can commit against its own people?

Because all that would do is raise more flags. If you were involved in a covert operation that resulted in the death of thousands of Americans why would you then go around killing all the people talking about it. These people are crazy and ruthless but they are far from stupid.

Now everyone needs to logically and objectively ask themselves why these types of straw men arguments are being brought up and presented. Supposedly to disprove the real questions being asked by us truth seekers. I would recommend everyone look at the following website and see for themselves the type of people and the types questions that are being asked. Its not just kids on the internet asking these questions its govt officials, scientists, aerospace experts, and family members. Do not let this piece of disinformation propaganda lull you into not searching for yourself about the truth that happened that day.

http://www.patriotsquestion911.org

Sweet, and to the point.

911 Booger - Are There Really People This Stupid?

I'll admit to a failing of mine...I love exposing nitwits, tools and schmendricks. One such individual is the empty head behind 911 Booger.

He has a posting up titled "Pouty 9/11 Truthers Get Upset When Reminded to Increase Medications". More telling, though, are the comments to said posting.

I must take issue with the logic offered in this statement: "He refers to what most sane individuals have accepted as the truth as "a crazy conspiracy theory about a world-wide conspiracy of radical Arabs and incompetent pilots". he then proffers that a blogger called The Existentialist Cowboy should take pharmaceuticals, and all will be well.

So...sane people are the ones ingesting mind-bending pharmaceuticals, right?

Just walk around in a chemically-induced haze, and all will be right with the world, yes?

I am an advocate of RESPONSIBLE USAGE; if you can pay for it without having to resort to crime, and you can handle it, and you don't turn into a massive asshole, you should feel free. This is the United States of America, is it not? You know, that whole bit about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?

I do wish to make this point - I hate bloody pharmaceutical drugs.

I actually had a panic attack going to the loo...is that something I should just get used to?

Bugger off with that bunch of nonsense...and as far as "conspiracy theories" go, the biggest one I've heard is that 19 stinky ragheads in a cave circumvented our air defenses, and were able to bring down three buildings, one amazingly without an airplane impact, and strike the nerve center of our defense with a commercial plane!

That's what I would term a drug-induced haze.