Sunday, July 6, 2008

Alex Jones and presents...9/11 Chronicles - Truth Rising - Part One

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b. j. edwards said...


Did you realize Damian Lataan lied to you and his readers on his blog?

Just ask him about the 2 comments of mine he repeatedly deleted but told you otherwise.

For the record:

8:44 AM
Blogger hANOVER fIST said...

Looks like you neoCON losers have ended your ad-hominem attack...could that be because you're raking up whatever coinage you have laying about?

You now realize that your scumbaggery is about to be at an time for stupid banter and semantics.'ve shown amazing fortitude in not just going off on these enablers of EVIL.

Yes...B.J, wildy, the various anon are all SCUMBAGS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.

The best thing you freaks can do is to give all of your worldly goods to a mission or charity...and then go suck some exhaust.

10:56 AM
Blogger Damian Lataan said...

Hanover, the salivating dogs of 911debunking have indeed called off their ad hominen attacks against me - well, at least for now they have. They must have realised that they weren't going to get a free feed here.

11:42 AM
Blogger b. j. edwards said...


Did you realize that Damian just lied to you?

Did you realize that he repeatedly deleted this post below then pretended I had run away.

Damian forgot that I archived the whole thread and comments.

In desperation, Bubba Damian, a Southern Baptist fundamentalist form Denton, Texas, wrote for all to see:

"I've proved my point; is a neocon propaganda site."

Those of us in the rational world, not given to the rantings of preachers from the prairies trying to instill the fear of some imaginary God in us, ask the very straightforward question:

Damian, just where have you provided any evidence that the site is a "neo-con propaganda site?"

Why is Damian so blatantly and desperately afraid to provide evidence?

Hee... hee... All your readers know why, Damian. It's time for you to fess up and apologize to ALL of us, don't you think, bubba Damian, Texan fundamentalist?

b. j. edwards said...

There you go, he did it again. But you have the record now, Hanover.

hANOVER fIST said...

I present to you, B.J., from DCDave's page... - The Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.

1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.

2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.

3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")

4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.

5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.

6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).

7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.

8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."

9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.

10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.

11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.

12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?

13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.

14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.

15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.

16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.

17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.

Recognize any of your tactics here?

Thanks for visiting.

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