Sunday, July 13, 2008

Time To Get Serious

With the attack on prize-winning journalist Mohammed Omer, it's time for those of us who have elected to wrest control of the world back from the scumbags to begin to kick it into high gear.

I was speaking with some co-workers in regards to the idea that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a MADMAN.

I immediately cautioned my colleagues to actually research the quote attributed to him, and that they would find that he NEVER SAID THE WORDS ATTRIBUTED TO HIM.

He never said he wanted to wipe Israel off of the map. Conversely, Zionists and Israeli settlers are doing their best to push Palestinians, oft referred to as "crocodiles", off of the aforementioned map.

Got a little quiet in the office...but that's not my problem if people don't want to deal with the TRUTH.

Same with an old bud of mine. He sent to me an email complaining about Barack Obama. I wrote back (and copied all he'd sent this missive to) an explanation of why NO ONE should vote for John "Songbird" McCain, who made propaganda videos for the Viet Cong, and who may not even qualify as an AMERICAN, thereby VOIDING him as a Presidential candidate.

I received back some whining crap about how they didn't want to receive emails on their personal device from people they don't know.

In other words:

"I wanna stay in my stupid, insular world, where John McCain is a wonderful man who was a POW and suffered TERRIBLY; and I wanna make him my Commander-In-Chief! President Bush didn't do nuthin' wrong...and all youse who think the gubbermint has ANYTHING to do with 9/11 should be's yer borscht and yer vodka...'cause you GOTTA be a stinkin' COMMIE or sumthin'..."

To all "youse" who believe in this rhetoric - YOU are welcome to eat my sphincter cheese.

You are an enabler of the highest degree.

You have allowed the freedoms hard-fought for by our ancestors to be ERODED.



I will NO LONGER hold my please...if you are within earshot, and you spout ANY of this garbage, be ready for the ONSLAUGHT.

I'LL TEAR YOU A NEW ONE, and smile the entire time. Trust's more painful than it sounds.

Last, but not least...I was checking David McGowan's page to see if there were any updates on his Inside the LC series: The Strange but Mostly True Story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation; it is up to number 7 in a series of 12 postings. At any rate, he had a number of pieces pertaining to the events of September 11th, 2001, and this posting is titled, "On Courage And Patriotism".

The tool who commented on this article had posted a link to a column by Charlie Brooker - well, here's a link to the Comments section - enjoy!


911truthisalie said...

OK, let's get serious, really serious about you nutters:

So, you believe in conspiracy theories, do you? You probably also think you're the Emperor of Pluto

Charlie Brooker

I've got a theory - an untested, unprovable theory - that the more interesting your life is at any given point, the less lurid and spectacular your dreams will be. Think of it as a balancing procedure carried out by the brain to stop you getting bored to death.

If your waking life is mundane, it'll inject some thrills into your night-time imaginings to maintain a healthy overall fun quotient. So if you work in a cardboard box factory, and your job is to stare at the side of each box as it passes along a conveyor belt, to ensure they're all uniform and boxy enough - and you do this all day, every day, until your mind grows so dissociated and numb you can scarcely tell where the cardboard ends and your body begins - when your daily routine is THAT dull, chances are you'll spend each night dreaming you're the Emperor of Pluto, wrestling a 6ft green jaguar during a meteor storm in the desert just outside Vegas.

All well and good in the world of dreams. But if you continue to believe you're the Emperor of Pluto after you've woken up, and you go into work and start knocking the boxes around with a homemade sceptre while screaming about your birthright, you're in trouble.

I mention this because recently I've found myself bumping into people - intelligent, level-headed people - who are sincerely prepared to entertain the notion that there might be something in some of the less lurid 9/11 conspiracy theories doing the rounds. They mumble about the "controlled demolition" of WTC 7 (oft referred to as "the third tower"), or posit the notion that the Bush administration knew 9/11 was coming and let it happen anyway. I mean, you never know, right? Right? And did I tell you I'm the Emperor of Pluto?

The glaring problem - and it's glaring in 6,000 watt neon, so vivid and intense you can see it from space with your eyes glued shut - is that with any 9/11 conspiracy theory you care to babble can be summed up in one word: paperwork.

Imagine the paperwork. Imagine the level of planning, recruitment, coordination, control, and unbelievable nerve required to pull off a conspiracy of that magnitude. Really picture it in detail. At the very least you're talking about hiring hundreds of civil servants cold-hearted enough to turn a blind eye to the murder of thousands of their fellow countrymen. If you were dealing with faultless, emotionless robots - maybe. But this almighty conspiracy was presumably hatched and executed by fallible humans. And if there's one thing we know about humans, it's that our inherent unreliability will always derail the simplest of schemes.

It's hard enough to successfully operate a video shop with a staff of three, for Christ's sake, let alone slaughter thousands and convince the world someone else was to blame.

That's just one broad objection to all the bullshit theories. But try suggesting it to someone in the midst of a 9/11 fairytale reverie, and they'll pull a face and say, "Yeah, but ... " and start banging on about some easily misinterpreted detail that "makes you think" (when it doesn't) or "contradicts the official story" (when you misinterpret it). Like nutbag creationists, they fixate on thinly spread, cherry-picked nuggets of "evidence" and ignore the thundering mass of data pointing the other way.

And when repeatedly pressed on that one, basic, overall point - that a conspiracy this huge would be impossible to pull off - they huff and whine and claim that unless you've sat through every nanosecond of Loose Change (the conspiracy flick du jour) and personally refuted every one of its carefully spun "findings" before their very eyes, using a spirit level and calculator, you have no right to an opinion on the subject.

Oh yeah? So if my four-year-old nephew tells me there's a magic leprechaun in the garden I have to spend a week meticulously peering underneath each individual blade of grass before I can tell him he's wrong, do I?

Look hard enough, and dementedly enough, and you can find "proof" that Kevin Bacon was responsible for 9/11 - or the 1987 Zeebrugge ferry disaster, come to that. It'd certainly make for a more interesting story, which is precisely why several thousand well-meaning people would go out of their way to believe it. Throughout my twenties I earnestly believed Oliver Stone's account of the JFK assassination. Partly because of the compelling (albeit wildly selective) way the "evidence" was blended with fiction in his 1991 movie - but mainly because I WANTED to believe it. Believing it made me feel important.

Embrace a conspiracy theory and suddenly you're part of a gang sharing privileged information; your sense of power and dignity rises a smidgen and this troublesome world makes more sense, for a time. You've seen through the matrix! At last you're alive! You ARE the Emperor of Pluto after all!

Except - ahem - you're only deluding yourself, your majesty. Because to believe the "system" is trying to control you is to believe it considers you worth controlling in the first place. The reality - that "the man" is scarcely competent enough to control his own bowels, and doesn't give a toss about you anyway - is depressing and emasculating; just another day in the cardboard box factory. And that's no place for an imaginary emperor, now, is it?

hANOVER fIST said...

Mr. may think that the paperwork is so huge and unwieldly that it's IMPOSSIBLE to fathom...but I don't share that view.

I have researched this breathlessly...and it is IMPOSSIBLE to believe that this building came down due to FIRE.

That is just stupidity.

I don't believe in "conspiracy theories", thank you...I believe in FACTS.

I live not too far from the WTC I didn't have to rely on television or internet feeds.

Why were Aaron Brown of CNN and Jane Standley of BBC reading teleprompters stating that the Salomon Brothers Building had collapsed, when a cursory glance outside their windows would have put the lie to that?

They have just admitted that it was Reuters who passed on that flawed info...don't you long for the days when reporters would perform due diligence before reporting ANYTHING sent to them as FACT?

Emperor of Pluto? Somebody's dusting your weed, pal...don't smoke the shiny buds, alright?

And hey...don't you DARE impugn Kevin Bacon - Kev would kick your monkey ass in a sec if he could get his hands around your lying neck.'s what you're admitting to - that our "inept" government could not POSSIBLY have pulled off such an event...but you're missing the point.


Here's why:

The indestructible passports - only a DULLARD would believe that a passport could flit around in the air for OVER AN HOUR, only to NEATLY LAND ON THE RUBBLE OF THE "COLLAPSED" BUILDINGS.

I was going to go on regarding all of the anomalies regarding the events of that day...but YOU ALREADY KNOW...since you have determined that all September 11th Truthers are working from a flawed premise, so I don't wish to waste your precious braincells...I would like to hear your "hypothesis" in regards to the passports, though...if you're honest at all, you'll admit that the passports were PLANTED.

I'll go to the URL you posted...and as always, I will pause and consider the information offered.

911truthisalie said...

"The indestructible passports - only a DULLARD would believe that a passport could flit around in the air for OVER AN HOUR, only to NEATLY LAND ON THE RUBBLE OF THE "COLLAPSED" BUILDINGS."

Only a 9/11 Denier makes such an absurd statement as you do. Of course it's possible for all manner of paper to survive airline crashes as it happens all the time. Only a complete idiot like you would believe claims by other 9/11 Deniers to the contrary.

The problem with all 9/11 Deniers like you is your gullibility and lack of any capability to reason and think critically. You are perfectly happy to repeat nonsense debunked years ago - including the myth that a passport could not not survive the crash.

"I was going to go on regarding all of the anomalies regarding the events of that day...but YOU ALREADY KNOW...since you have determined that all September 11th Truthers are working from a flawed premise..."

"Conspiratorial Thinking"

"The mistaken belief that a handful of unexplained anomalies can undermine a well-established theory lies at the heart of all conspiratorial thinking (as well as creationism, Holocaust denial and the various crank theories of physics). All the "evidence" for a 9/11 conspiracy falls under the rubric of this fallacy. Such notions are easily refuted by noting that scientific theories are not built on single facts alone but on a convergence of evidence assembled from multiple lines of inquiry."

- Michael Shermer

"At its heart, 9/11 Truth is a conceit, a narcissistic pipe dream for a dingbat, sheeplike population that is pleased to imagine itself dangerous and ungovernable."

- Matt Taibbi, "The Great Derangement"

Hanover, it must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality

hANOVER fIST said... really must be an IDIOT to believe that.

You have NO PROBLEM whatsoever with laws of physics being violated - open-air fires EVAPORATING STEEL; "devout" Muslims chasing tail, boozing it up and leaving their holy books at the drop of a bikini top; yet, they're supposed to be expecting some holy martyrdom; "evidence" left in a trunk at the airport parking lot; an obvious stand-down by NORAD; "unknown" individuals taking accounts of the day in question and DESTROYING said tape; The Monkey King endangering an ENTIRE SCHOOL by not leaving when Andrew Crad whispers in his ear, "Jeff Gannon just lubed his asshole with Redi-Whip...Extra creamy!"; the FBI confiscates EVERY BLOODY TAPE of the impact at the Pentagon, but leaves all footage of the impacts at the World Trade Center complex; the Salomon Brothers building "collapsing" from...what? FEMA doesn't know...NIST doesn't know...but many more people seems to have an you won't ascribe to...because it PUTS THE LIE TO THE "OFFICIAL" STORY!

There were NO 19 HIJACKERS on the goddamned planes, asshat!

Tell someone else that load of hooey.

I see that you've provided a quote from Michael "Skeptic magazine" that supposed to bolster your stupid argument?

It only makes it more apparent that you're a complete and compromised SHILL.

And, once again...Matt Taiibi? He is a professional...what? Wooden head? Just what special quality does he bring to the discussion, besides being able to read a dummy card at twenty paces?


911truthisalie said...

I love demonstrating how easy it is to get 9/11 Deniers like you to reveal their own idiocy in public.

It just shows how gullible 9/11 Deniers to believe what they are told.

Particularly when it has been debunked years ago.

You really take the cake, Hanover, another fully-blown 9/11 Truth Kiddie determined to make an ass of yourself at all costs.

hANOVER fIST said...

I don't understand why you think that you can hypnotize me into believing crap that isn't true.

The passport story was debunked by WHO? I'd like to hear EXACTLY how this was debunked. If you can't provide a link, kindly shut the hell up.